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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 06:47 PM


Every website I saw missed the downgrade to TS by 24-36 hours.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 06:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Video from San Carlos on the mainland.

https://youtu.be/73OCNTKEBLg


Depending on when that was shot, that's a real testament to how well protected that marina is. Boats can take water, if their bilge pumps are working. The wind looks, at most 20-25 knots.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 07:53 PM


Windy.com was the website I used, too. Predicted up to 1.5 inch/hour in BA (yes, twice as much as 3/4 downpour in Sonora), and 3/4 inch/hour in BOLA. It "could" be it, for an hour or two. It arrived to BA at sunset, and to Cortez just before dawn. Nobody here confirmed these high numbers with his own weather station, probably nobody wanted to go outside in the middle of the night.

The only other possibility is that Windy screwed up on rain data, big time. I wrote earlier that Windy numbers don't make sense, with rain intensity WAY over 8 mm/hour for 6-7 hours, and rain totals 40 mm/day :)

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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 08:18 PM


When did windy predict the downgrade to TS? Last time I looked at it, it was in agreement that it would remain a Cat 1, as it went ashore on Baja. Instead, it was downgraded 24-36 hours before that.

I find windy.com to be the prettiest interface, but that's about it. I prefer the ensemble models from the NHC. But they dont generally predict rainfall amounts, which are important. More important than wind, usually. But, as it turned out, not in this case. This seems to be a relatively "dry" tropical event.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 08:48 PM


Windy.com doesn't generate labels Cat1, Cat2, tropical storm etc. It only predicts wind force. For BA it predicted upper 40-ish knots during the peak time, for BOLA a little less. Which was in agreement with Eeb/NOAA. Real peak numbers - don't know. I see 20-ish not in the peak. Wide-ars guess ... 30-ish peak on Cortez?

On the rain numbers Windy didn't do a good job, only approximate time of the beginning and end, give or take 4 hours. But there are no other good/better sources on rain.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 09:30 PM


Rain amounts are just so unpredictable.

Try and predict the rainiest part of a spinning cyclone and then predict where the wettest arms will impact which portion of land.

Then figure in orographics.

Even a bit much for computers.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 09:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
When did windy predict the downgrade to TS? Last time I looked at it, it was in agreement that it would remain a Cat 1, as it went ashore on Baja. Instead, it was downgraded 24-36 hours before that.


I remember windy predicting 40 - 50 kt max winds, depending upon where you clicked on the map about two days before landfall when you advanced the time slider to landfall. I knew that's tropical storm, not hurricane force. The app didn't explicitly say "tropical storm".




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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 10:35 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
Rain amounts are just so unpredictable.

Try and predict the rainiest part of a spinning cyclone and then predict where the wettest arms will impact which portion of land.


That must be it - spinning nature of cyclone.

Every time I looked at the expected yellow-red areas on Windy - i.e. very wet areas, 15-30mm/hr - for the same land spot and same date/time they changed every few hours. Rain clouds are spinning around the eye of the hurricane, and the eye itself is moving forward and changing/deteriorating over mountainous terrain.
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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 12:33 AM


Been raining in Los Angeles for the last 3hrs. Had very rare thunder and even much rarer lightning flashes.





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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 09:34 AM


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Here's hoping Shari and Blanca survived Serge's surge. Fingers crossed; they took a direct hit.


SErgio was a gnarly affair here in Asuncion, La Bocana & Abreojos. Power remained on thanks to amazing CFE crews but internet was on and off and we were busy trying to keep the water out of the house!
Rain started before dawn and lasted 24 hours...it rained like a banshee for awhile but most of the rain was light which saved us from alot of flooding...only very minor road damage and winds luckily were only about 40-45 at the peak.

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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 10:08 AM


Impressive rain in San Carlos. The location looks like it could be in any marina anywhere, big yachts, big houses. A long way from the San Carlos that I first met in 1954 when there was absolutely no structures or boats on/ in the bay. A diver's and hunter's paradise!
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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 10:45 AM


Has anybody heard about san Ignacio?



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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 11:07 AM


I heard the river was over the road yesterday but likely down now



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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 06:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Vince  
Impressive rain in San Carlos. The location looks like it could be in any marina anywhere, big yachts, big houses. A long way from the San Carlos that I first met in 1954 when there was absolutely no structures or boats on/ in the bay. A diver's and hunter's paradise!



I was there too, Vince, about that same time (early '50's), for a week. Nothing made by man was there other than a couple of gringos camping out, and it was spectacular!
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[*] posted on 10-13-2018 at 07:11 PM


Just got a road report from fishermen from San Hipolito...the dirt road from Asuncion to La Bocana is still not passable nor is the road from the highway into Abreojos.



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