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caj13
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By loon - I assume Cliffy means scientists with 20 years of training educatuion and experience, looking at literally hundreds of millions of data
points, and using some of the most sophisticated computers and software on the planet .
Because everyone knows some guy - who actually believes the earth is flat - and only 6000 years old - has undeniable proof that all that science is
BS - because he's got a photo of a palm tree.
and the best part of that are the disciples here who adoringly follow their cult leader - in lockstep spouting their mantra - palm tree photo
negates any and all data and science .
Oh yeah - I'm sure its no surprise to them that we have just had the hottest month on record across the earth - flat or round - David - you need
to come up with some corollary to the Palm Tree denial, that covers those rapidly increasing temperatures. I'll give you a hint - us scientists
took over the thermometer businesses world wide, and we just jack the scales up a few degrees - easy peasee!
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Quote: Originally posted by caj13  | | I'll give you a hint - us scientists took over the thermometer businesses world wide, and we just jack the scales up a few degrees - easy peasee!
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Hey! You were sworn to secrecy on that! That's the problem with conspiracies, no one can keep a secret.
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And for those of you who still don't get it, or understand how climate change will affect your life directly in the here and now-
https://www.rawstory.com/worsening-heatwaves-put-entire-glob...
I have listened to some radio shows this week where they were interviewing farmers, who said their crops are literally cooking in the fields. This is
not some prediction- it is happening right now.
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The humidity is a killer at 76%. It is currently 100 F (37.8 C?) where I am in Grass Valley CA, but the humidity is only 7%.
[Edited on 7-22-2023 by AKgringo]
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surabi
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I'm an hour north of Puerto Vallarta, where it is currently 33 degrees C, but "feels like" 42, because the humidity is 79%.
It has been consistently this hot for weeks. Even when it clouds over, which it has done a lot lately, it doesn't feel any cooler. Sitting in front of
the fan barely helps because it's just blowing hot air.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | I'm an hour north of Puerto Vallarta, where it is currently 33 degrees C, but "feels like" 42, because the humidity is 79%.
It has been consistently this hot for weeks. Even when it clouds over, which it has done a lot lately, it doesn't feel any cooler. Sitting in front of
the fan barely helps because it's just blowing hot air.
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and we still have august and september....whats been your hottest month over there?
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
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Normally, I find June and mid-late Oct. to be the hottest months here- before the rainy season starts and after it ends, when it's just hot and humid.
But this year, it's been July.
In the past, by early July, it's raining almost every late aft, evening, or o'nite, which cools things down. There's been mornings in August and Sept
after an all night rain where it was chilly enough in the morning that I put on a long sleeved shirt. It'll get hot and steamy when the sun comes out
during the day, but then the rain cools it down again.
But this year, we've had very little rain so far. Last year it didn't rain enough either. And winters are getting colder. There were weeks on end in
January and Feb. where it went down to 42F. I'd never experienced that before in the 20 years I've lived here, aside from one winter maybe 19 years
ago. And that was just for a few nights, not 2 months.
I have never had complaints about the heat and humidity here in the PV area before. I like hot weather and can handle it way better than most people,
but it's just brutal now.
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I wonder if real estate prices in Phoenix will go down because of the heat. I bet there are a lot of people there thinking they need to move out of
the heat. I can't imagine spending all day inside with AC and the windows closed because it's too hot outside.
Nice in the winter, though.
Thank goodness I live on the Pacific coast near San Diego during the summer. In fact, I haven't lived in a house or apartment with AC or a furnace for
almost 50 years.
[Edited on 7-22-2023 by SFandH]
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Climate records tumble, leaving Earth in uncharted territory!!!!
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065
OMG!
Will temps keep climbing until 30 or 50 or 100 years from now much of North American desert is uninhabitable to human or any other life?
[Edited on 7-22-2023 by mtgoat666]
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Will temps keep climbing until 30 or 50 or 100 years from now much of North American desert is uninhabitable to human or any other life?
[Edited on 7-22-2023 by mtgoat666] |
I'd bet on it.
[Edited on 7-22-2023 by SFandH]
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My family in Anchorage have been telling me that this spring has been abnormally cool and wet. With 20 hours of daylight and lots of rain, lawns are
out of control. Mowing tall, wet grass twice a week is not fun!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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My daughter lives on central Vancouver Island. Says it's really hot there and it hasn't rained since April. No rain in the Pacific Northwest for 3
months straight? Sometimes there's no rain in July and August, but it has always rained in the spring and early summer before. She said their area is
at max drought level.
A lot of these climate change deniers are going to find that they are going to be suffering far more "inconveniences" than some climate action
protesters blocking traffic.
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This is an interesting article
Records being set.
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mtgoat666
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People are going to have to start migrating toward polar regions. Living in temps 100 for days on end is nuts, and miserable.
Headline:
As US heat wave spreads, Arizona counts the dead: 18 confirmed, dozens more suspected
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | My daughter lives on central Vancouver Island. Says it's really hot there and it hasn't rained since April. No rain in the Pacific Northwest for 3
months straight? Sometimes there's no rain in July and August, but it has always rained in the spring and early summer before. She said their area is
at max drought level.
A lot of these climate change deniers are going to find that they are going to be suffering far more "inconveniences" than some climate action
protesters blocking traffic.
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It rained almost every day in SoCal from January to June.
We are in Ireland now, it's suppose to rain for the next 10 days, it has rained all but 3 days in July so far. That is 3 times more than normal.
It's called weather. Not a reason to give up your freedom and $ to worthless governments.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
People are going to have to start migrating toward polar regions. Living in temps 100 for days on end is nuts, and miserable.
Headline:
As US heat wave spreads, Arizona counts the dead: 18 confirmed, dozens more suspected
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I, and some of my Family and friends, have lived and worked outside with summer temps well above 100 degrees since 1974 (El Centro, CA & Redding,
CA) by choice. So far not one of us has died or become sick from the heat. Stay hydrated out there.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
People are going to have to start migrating toward polar regions. Living in temps 100 for days on end is nuts, and miserable.
Headline:
As US heat wave spreads, Arizona counts the dead: 18 confirmed, dozens more suspected
[Edited on 7-23-2023 by mtgoat666] |
I, and some of my Family and friends, have lived and worked outside with summer temps well above 100 degrees since 1974 (El Centro, CA & Redding,
CA) by choice. So far not one of us has died or become sick from the heat. Stay hydrated out there.
[Edited on 7-23-2023 by Barry A.] |
Admit it, summer in El Centro is miserable!
The Central Valley is not much better in summer, though Redding does beat El Centro 
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I grew up a little south of you in Grass Valley and had cousins in Redding, so I was very familiar with working (or playing) in excessive heat. I
moved to Alaska in late 1980 and surrendered my ability to cope with it, and now I have returned to G.V.
I have been hiding from triple digits for the last three days with a swamp cooler for company. The humidity here is low enough that the cooler is all
I need in an old, poorly insulated house.
[Edited on 7-23-2023 by AKgringo]
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A lot of times I use just the fan with the water turned off to keep the interior humidity low. My PGE bill runs about 40 to 50 dollars a month,
depending on how much laundry I do.
It is about the same in the winter because I burn wood instead of using the natural gas furnace.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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The issue with swamp coolers is humidity and also the need to have relatively clean excessive water that you are able to dispose of in the evaporation
membrane. I think the limited water supply is the major issue in Baja.
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