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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 07:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Anyone ever measured the environmental impact of a bunch of geezers arguing on forums like Bajanomad?

Imagine the number of ipads, laptops, smartphones plugged into the grid… charging so that the keyboard warriors can duke it out.

Maybe one of the engineers here can quantify how much power is consumed and what the carbon footprint is here.


I'll get the engineers at my workplace right on it! I'm sure the greenhouse gases produced on this forum are contributing to something beyond ones and zeroes.




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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 07:39 AM


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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 09:14 AM


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LED lights are nice. But throwing a party because the government is “protecting” us from other types of lightbulbs is ridiculous.
Anyone actually sat down and looked at what the difference is to the environment? Negligible.

But go ahead and enjoy your fiesta. haha


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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 10:17 AM


Personnel anecdote:

The lifelong beaches I went to in San Clemente have disappeared.

Last night big hunks of Newport Beach were under water from the high tide, never ever seen that too.




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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 10:41 AM


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Society has always had foolish muddle-headed deniers. Deniers of climate change and covid are same as those who denied auto seat belts save lives, denied that smoking kills, deny that over-abundance of guns is cause of elevated gun death rate, etc.


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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 10:52 AM


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Society has always had foolish muddle-headed deniers. Deniers of climate change and covid are same as those who denied auto seat belts save lives, denied that smoking kills, deny that over-abundance of guns is cause of elevated gun death rate, etc.


No one denied Covid. They denied that kids and healthy ppl under 50 should be compelled to take a vaccine or be locked in their houses.

Covid is a very bad example for you to point to. The government could not have lied more.




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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 01:19 PM


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No one denied Covid. They denied that kids and healthy ppl under 50 should be compelled to take a vaccine or be locked in their houses.




No one denied Covid? Once again you ignore and deny reality. Right wingers were yelling all over the place that Covid was a hoax. Medical personnel were dealing with patients who were trying to insist that they be treated for something else, even as they were taking their last dying breaths, because they were firmly convinced that Covid was a hoax.

And being the selfish person that you are, you can't acknowledge that vaccines, and masking and lockdowns were designed to stop the spread of a deadly virus for everyone. People who care about others didn't want to be responsible for spreading it to others, regardless of whether they considered themselves to be vulnerable.

And plenty of "healthy people" got Covid and died, and spread it to others who died. Your constant litany of "everyone who wasn't vulnerable should have been free to do as they pleased" flies in the face of infectious disease control and is simply a lame excuse for not caring about anyone other than yourself and your freedumbs.
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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 01:33 PM


No one was locked in the basement. That's another lie designed to demean those who give a chit about anyone other than themselves.
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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 01:37 PM


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Ireland had one of its wettest July's ever. Saw a huge rainbow coming off the Atlantic this AM. No CC concerns over here.



No one in Ireland has concerns about climate change? Yeah, right. What an idiotic tourist comment.

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[*] posted on 8-3-2023 at 07:13 AM


"There must be no barriers to freedom of inquiry … There is no place for dogma in science. The scientist is free, and must be free to ask any question, to doubt any assertion, to seek for any evidence, to correct any errors."
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[*] posted on 8-3-2023 at 10:54 AM


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Ireland had one of its wettest July's ever. Saw a huge rainbow coming off the Atlantic this AM. No CC concerns over here.



I call Bullsh!t
https://www.epa.ie/environment-and-you/climate-change/what-i...

https://www.gsi.ie/en-ie/geoscience-topics/climate-change/Pa...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58184287

and on and on. Just because you are willfully ignorant on the issue does not make it go away - it makes you - well willfully ignorant!

Education is a powerful tool - facts - well they are facts - and education is based on using facts in critical thinking - you would have learned that in law school - but since you flunked the BAR exam - maybe that's why.

Facts and statistics and math would have helped you in pursuit of a degree in engineering too! - but that math was just too hard - right!
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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 10:05 PM


Guess what’s disturbing the Climate Change folks this week. The climate is changing, but not changing how they want or predict. Their shorts are in a knot again,

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25934500-100-somethin...

“Unexpectedly, the eastern Pacific Ocean is cooling. If this “cold tongue” continues, it could reduce greenhouse gas warming by 30 per cent – but also bring megadrought to the US

FOR years, climate models have predicted that as greenhouse gas emissions rise, ocean waters will warm. For the most part, they have been correct. Yet in a patch of the Pacific Ocean, the opposite is happening. Stretching west from the coast of Ecuador for thousands of kilometres lies a tentacle of water that has been cooling for the past 30 years. Why is this swathe of the eastern Pacific defying our predictions? Welcome to the mystery of the cold tongue.”

Perhaps the problem is that yet another model is wrong in its predictions.


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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 10:13 PM


PB,

In other news:

“The president of Stanford University, Marc Tessier-Lavigne, has announced he will resign after concerns about the integrity of his research. Tessier-Lavigne announced his plans to step down on 31 August in a letter to students and staff on Wednesday.Jul 19, 2023”

This is for misdeeds dating back decades that has delayed important research by pointing it in the wrong direction. He was finally brought down by free discussion of his published work on the internet.
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[*] posted on 8-5-2023 at 08:41 AM


If we all go back to the beginning and the first survey of temperatures around the world we will remember that even the guy who brought out the first data to support global warming had to retract his research because the data was flawed and false BUT -
NO ONE REMEMBERS THIS LITTLE FACT.




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[*] posted on 8-5-2023 at 08:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
If we all go back to the beginning and the first survey of temperatures around the world we will remember that even the guy who brought out the first data to support global warming had to retract his research because the data was flawed and false BUT -
NO ONE REMEMBERS THIS LITTLE FACT.


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[*] posted on 8-5-2023 at 11:56 AM
Where are the Climate Doomers Today?


It’s amazing how fast they (the doomers) disappear when the science doesn’t match their narrative. It’s worth noting that a 30% reduction is about what would occur if the US stopped burning hydrocarbons.

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[*] posted on 8-5-2023 at 01:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
It’s amazing how fast they (the doomers) disappear when the science doesn’t match their narrative. It’s worth noting that a 30% reduction is about what would occur if the US stopped burning hydrocarbons.



Cliffy,
Don’t know what your talking about. Science is there, climate is changing, GHG from man is major source of climate change. Focusing on one cold snap to discredit the science just makes you look foolish.




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[*] posted on 8-5-2023 at 09:02 PM


Goat,

A possible 30% reduction from nature is a big thing. It’s the climate guys who are making big about it, not me.

Now you’re the one denying scientific proof of climate change!
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[*] posted on 8-6-2023 at 01:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


They predicted the Great Barrier Reef would be dead by now. It recently recorded record coral growth.

The climate cult is actually rooting for this crap. The will never, ever acknowledge that the US government is powerless to change mother nature.


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100% coral die-off.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/25/florid...

And asserting that climate change activists think the govt. can change mother nature is idiotic. Nor, of course, is the govt. trying to do that.
What those who care are trying to change is the behavior of humans that negatively affect the climate.

Even a 6 year old can understand that.
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[*] posted on 8-6-2023 at 01:39 PM


Too bad your biases prevent you from understanding the difference between lying and changing recommendations based upon further scientific research.
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