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mtgoat666
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Clarkie,
Garbage in, garbage out certainly describes your opinions on climate change!
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Cliffy
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I guess we have never had a Cat 5 storm before in the history of the earth
What happened to the predictions of another coming Ice Age decades ago? Predictions by the best "scientists" in the world then?
What ever happened to Al Gore's predictions? Another icon of the climate change religion? I guess Florida should be under water by now ?
Let's see- didn't he start some kind of carbon exchange BUSINESS about that time to rake in the bucks while still riding around in a Gulfstream Jet ?
As far as I can tell the palm tree is still above water and has been for decades. I haven't even yet dug into the falsehoods of the afore mentioned
recent posting.
All the hysteria is nothing but PREDICTIONS
When you can PREDICT the weather next month with some form of accuracy on a daily basis come back and tell me and I might yell in concert "The sky is
falling"
Until then? FOLLOW THE MONEY just like we did with the jab!!!!
Hundreds of published scientific papers have been retracted in the last year due to false data claims. All because FUNDING for research is controlled
by the narrative and not the science. No funding= No research= NO career Alternative voices even by internationally known scientists gets canceled
for not toeing the line
Why no mention of one of the founders of Green Peace who has a counter argument? Not "educated" enough for a postulation?
You chose your position in life today by what YOU did yesterday
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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  | | Hurricane Otis went from being a category 1 tropical storm to being a Category 5 monster hurricane in a matter of hours. Know why, Einstein? Because
the ocean temperature offshore was hotter than it's ever been, which makes hurricanes gain incredible speed incredibly quickly. Know why, Einstein?
Because of global warming caused by man-made climate change. |
This has proven to be wrong a hundred times.
Still waiting for the Glacier age Mr. Spock predicted in 1979.
For 60 years you people have made these ridiculous predictions over and over. It is all about power and control.
If you care about clean energy, push nuclear. Until you do that, everything else is a lie.
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surabi
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Three Mile Island. Chernobyl. ***ushima. Ask the people with radiation poisoning if nuclear energy is "clean". Oh right, you can't- they're dead.
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Troll,
Coal, the stuff that China uses 50% of, has killed legions more than nuclear without counting the people who have died of cancer from the
radioactivity released by burning it!
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
Three Mile Island. Chernobyl. ***ushima. Ask the people with radiation poisoning if nuclear energy is "clean". Oh right, you can't- they're dead.
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If you actually do your research you will find that Nuclear is far, far more safe than other energy sources. Combine that with how green it is.
Watch this to learn more about nuclear:
https://youtu.be/glM80kRWbes?si=HzUh0-cuEOeSkb6G
[Edited on 10-26-2023 by JZ]
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mtgoat666
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A youtube video! I feel so much safer now!
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Goat,
Is this better? Notice who’s building lots of new plants! It’s not the US or Mexico!
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-fu...
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mtgoat666
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Ya, but usa has more nuclear generating capacity (95 gigawatts) than any other country. We generate over 30 percent of the world’s nuke
electricity. Perhaps we dont need additional nuke generating capacity, and can better focus on windmills and PV 
You got a solution for the waste? Even red states don't want it!
Woke!
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Goat,
Yes, a Space X heavy direct to the Sun!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | How come no one ever talks about the cooling affects of clouds and the more CO2 means better tree and green plant growth?
More plant growth (proven event since the additional CO2 has been tracked) means more O2 for us- doesn't it?
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Here ya go, Cliffy- educate yourself.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Troll,
Coal, the stuff that China uses 50% of, has killed legions more than nuclear without counting the people who have died of cancer from the
radioactivity released by burning it! |
Mansplainer- I think we are all aware of the health and environmental issues regarding coal. Did I suggest that coal was a better alternative to
nuclear? Of course I didn't, so what's your point? Wind, solar and other technologies that are being worked on are the clean alternative to nuclear
and fossil fuels.
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Troll,
Two words: Base Load!
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"While historically large power grids used unvarying power plants to meet the base load, there is no specific technical requirement for this to be so.
The base load can equally well be met by the appropriate quantity of intermittent power sources and dispatchable generation."
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Hurricane Otis went from being a category 1 tropical storm to being a Category 5 monster hurricane in a matter of hours. Know why, Einstein? Because
the ocean temperature offshore was hotter than it's ever been, which makes hurricanes gain incredible speed incredibly quickly. Know why, Einstein?
Because of global warming caused by man-made climate change. |
This has proven to be wrong a hundred times.
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Oh, please do cite the hundred times this has been proven wrong.
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Troll,
“ "While historically large power grids used unvarying power plants to meet the base load, there is no specific technical requirement for this to be
so. The base load can equally well be met by the appropriate quantity of intermittent power sources and dispatchable generation.”
You have no idea what you are talking about!
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surabi
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Suggest you tell that to the people on whose articles that quote from Wikipedia was based on.
Peters, Roger, Cherise Burda (2007-09-01). "The Basics on Base Load: Meeting Ontario's Base Load Electricity Demand with Renewable Power Sources"
(PDF). Pembina Institute. Retrieved 2018-05-16.
Archer, Cristina L.; Jacobson, Mark Z. (November 2007). "Supplying Baseload Power and Reducing Transmission Requirements by Interconnecting Wind
Farms". Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology. 46 (11): 1701–1717. Bibcode:2007JApMC..46.1701A. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.475.4620.
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RFClark
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Troll,
Two more words: Ontario Hydro!
https://files.opg.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/grade9stude...
And two key quotes:
“In Ontario the wind blows strong enough to generate electricity 20% of the time”
“ Roughly 60 percent of Ontario's electricity is accounted for by three nuclear power plants: Pickering, Darlington and Bruce. No fatal accidents
related to nuclear power have occurred in Ontario.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | I guess we have never had a Cat 5 storm before in the history of the earth
What happened to the predictions of another coming Ice Age decades ago? Predictions by the best "scientists" in the world then?
What ever happened to Al Gore's predictions? Another icon of the climate change religion? I guess Florida should be under water by now ?
Let's see- didn't he start some kind of carbon exchange BUSINESS about that time to rake in the bucks while still riding around in a Gulfstream Jet ?
As far as I can tell the palm tree is still above water and has been for decades. I haven't even yet dug into the falsehoods of the afore mentioned
recent posting.
All the hysteria is nothing but PREDICTIONS
When you can PREDICT the weather next month with some form of accuracy on a daily basis come back and tell me and I might yell in concert "The sky is
falling"
Until then? FOLLOW THE MONEY just like we did with the jab!!!!
Hundreds of published scientific papers have been retracted in the last year due to false data claims. All because FUNDING for research is controlled
by the narrative and not the science. No funding= No research= NO career Alternative voices even by internationally known scientists gets canceled
for not toeing the line
Why no mention of one of the founders of Green Peace who has a counter argument? Not "educated" enough for a postulation? |
Hey Cliffy - are you lying on purpose - or just poorly "informed" by bogus claims - or willfully ignorant?
There never was any scientific claims of a coming ice age in the 1970's. Popular Myth - never happened - look it up Cliffy - its all a bunch of
bogus BS spouted by a bunch of deniers - who - in this group at least - get their climate science from a guy who repairs sprinklers - Believes the
world is 6000 years old, and the earth is flat - literally Cliffy - that's your climate guru -
scientific papers retracted because of forged data - yup - who discovered that Data Cliffy? who questioned it - thats all part of the scientific
method - it should have never gotten past the reviewers - but as soon as it did - and it got out to the scientific community at large - scientists
called Bull chit -
But I don't recall any significant climate papers being withdrawn - are you aware of some? if so - can I get a citation on it - i would be very
interested. But it kind of feels like you are trying to smear climate scientists by saying "scientists" falsified data - nope Cliffy - not how it
works!
and this whole funding crap - bullchit - you have no idea how it works, how science is funded - by whom, how - the process - nothing!
seriously - 6 million people dead of covid world wide - and you still think its a political scam! right -
The very science you hate - thats the reason you are still alive Cliffy - picking and choosing "science" as enemies because of your political
beliefs - sorry bucko - show me the data -
and for climate data - theres alot and it all tells the story you and your fellow deniers don't want to hear! Climate change is hear, it has huge
economic effects, and its getting worse. Hows yourv insurance costs going cliffy? do you live in California? or florida? guess what - climate
change - - and BTW we can now aply science to get a good estimate of how much worse climate events are because of global warming - but - well
you know - thats science - and since you can't be bothered to educate yourself - how would you know that!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | I guess we have never had a Cat 5 storm before in the history of the earth
What happened to the predictions of another coming Ice Age decades ago? Predictions by the best "scientists" in the world then?
What ever happened to Al Gore's predictions? Another icon of the climate change religion? I guess Florida should be under water by now ?
Let's see- didn't he start some kind of carbon exchange BUSINESS about that time to rake in the bucks while still riding around in a Gulfstream Jet ?
As far as I can tell the palm tree is still above water and has been for decades. I haven't even yet dug into the falsehoods of the afore mentioned
recent posting.
All the hysteria is nothing but PREDICTIONS
When you can PREDICT the weather next month with some form of accuracy on a daily basis come back and tell me and I might yell in concert "The sky is
falling"
Until then? FOLLOW THE MONEY just like we did with the jab!!!!
Hundreds of published scientific papers have been retracted in the last year due to false data claims. All because FUNDING for research is controlled
by the narrative and not the science. No funding= No research= NO career Alternative voices even by internationally known scientists gets canceled
for not toeing the line
Why no mention of one of the founders of Green Peace who has a counter argument? Not "educated" enough for a postulation? |
Hey Cliffy - are you lying on purpose - or just poorly "informed" by bogus claims - or willfully ignorant?
There never was any scientific claims of a coming ice age in the 1970's. Popular Myth - never happened - look it up Cliffy - its all a bunch of
bogus BS spouted by a bunch of deniers - who - in this group at least - get their climate science from a guy who repairs sprinklers - Believes the
world is 6000 years old, and the earth is flat - literally Cliffy - that's your climate guru -
scientific papers retracted because of forged data - yup - who discovered that Data Cliffy? who questioned it - thats all part of the scientific
method - it should have never gotten past the reviewers - but as soon as it did - and it got out to the scientific community at large - scientists
called Bull chit -
But I don't recall any significant climate papers being withdrawn - are you aware of some? if so - can I get a citation on it - i would be very
interested. But it kind of feels like you are trying to smear climate scientists by saying "scientists" falsified data - nope Cliffy - not how it
works!
and this whole funding crap - bullchit - you have no idea how it works, how science is funded - by whom, how - the process - nothing!
seriously - 6 million people dead of covid world wide - and you still think its a political scam! right -
The very science you hate - thats the reason you are still alive Cliffy - picking and choosing "science" as enemies because of your political
beliefs - sorry bucko - show me the data -
and for climate data - theres alot and it all tells the story you and your fellow deniers don't want to hear! Climate change is hear, it has huge
economic effects, and its getting worse. Hows yourv insurance costs going cliffy? do you live in California? or florida? guess what - climate
change - - and BTW we can now aply science to get a good estimate of how much worse climate events are because of global warming - but - well
you know - thats science - and since you can't be bothered to educate yourself - how would you know that! |
Caj:
Many of the denialists actually believe the misinformation they are fed by denialist media, no matter how whacky the misinformation.
Woke!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
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