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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | | Quote: Originally posted by BajaTed |
Those that got vaccinated have served their "greater community good" by getting vaccinated. It is totally irrelevant that they could all be
asymptomatic spreaders except to the un vaccinated, who in turn deserve their outcome due to their personal irresponsibility. |
This is a really bad take.
We are all vaccinated, but I respect anyone's decision to not put something in their body.
They might have already had Covid, like Barry. Or are under 50 and in good health and have an extremely small chance of serious illness. It's their
choice.
The numbers are way down as the most vulnerable have been vaccinated.
The left's intolerance knows no bounds and this statement is par for course.
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Actions have consequences for each individual. (Libertarianism mantra)
invoking choice & rights along with "might haves" or "extremely small chances" on your part has nothing to do with my choice of situational
perception of others decisions.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
The numbers are way down as the most vulnerable have been vaccinated.
The left's intolerance knows no bounds and this statement is par for course. |
The left? Like a fork in the road, left vs. right? Conservative vs. liberal? Good vs. bad? Us vs. them?
Is this what you mean, JZ?
Again, you are close to practicing medicine on this forum. Your views come across as too liberal here.
Everything is cool. Infections way down. Vaccines are optional. Wear a mask or don't? Live your life, be happy, don't worry, normal is
back and the naysayers were wrong.
Dangerous stuff to be writing.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Basic Facts That Everyone should be aware of
Humans recuperate from covid flu like infection at a rate of %99.97
People who die with covid have 3-4 severe comorbidities that are cause of death
Recuperated humans have the highest quality immunity available to protect from future infection, transmission and share antibodies
There are no Covid Vaccinations approved
Covid vaccines are not vaccines by any traditional or common definition
Covid vaccines are unapproved by any health association *FDA), have no testing on human high risk demographics, nor by race, genetics, age etc.
Covid vaccines are 100% experimental, first time use of broad gene therapy, mRNA interrupters are injected using synthetic product into your cells
disguised with nano particle jackets, since they would otherwise be rejected
Covid vaccines alter DNA to RNA transcription permanently, so that your body will forever hyper produce the experimental synthetic spike proteins
associated with response to the viral excretion
Spike proteins are produced as part of the cellular process to respond to toxicity that precipitates influenza symptoms as part of dying cells
The "vaccines" are not vaccines, yet, create a permanent state of infection provoking hyper spike protein production, similar to high toxicity
response
Vaccine manufacturers state you will need 3-4 vaccines a years, continuously to alter the spike protein production according to their prediction of
covid variant, in order to produce a constant immune response, while in toxic state?
Anyone who refuses experimental drug that provokes high toxicity with synthesized mRNA to provoke hyper spike protein production is labeled antivaxer
Human immune response is successful at a demonstrable rate of at least %99.97 and high for those under 75 years and far superior to experimental drugs
If you refuse experimental unapproved high risk drugs you want to kill grandma according to rabid morbid worshipping extremists on Baja nomad
[Edited on 5-19-2021 by gnukid]
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Basic Facts That Everyone should be aware of
Humans recuperate from covid flu like infection at a rate of %99.97
People who die have 3-4 severe comorbidities that are cause of death
Recuperated humans have the highest quality immunity available to protect from future infection, transmission and share antibodies
There are no Covid Vaccinations approved
Covid vaccines are not vaccines by any traditional or common definition
Covid vaccines are unapproved by any health association *FDA), have no testing on human high risk demographics, nor by race, genetics, age etc.
Covid vaccines are 100% experimental, first time use of broad gene therapy, mRNA interrupters are injected using synthetic product into your cells
disguised with nano particle jackets, since they would otherwise be rejected
Covid vaccines alter DNA to RNA transcription permanently, so that your body will forever hyper produce spike the synthetic proteins associated with
response to the experimental viral excretion
Spike proteins are produced as part of the cellular process to respond to toxicity that precipitates influenza symptoms as part of dying cells
The "vaccines" are not vaccines, yet, create a permanent state of infection provoking hyper spike protein production, similar to high toxicity
response
Vaccine manufacturers state you will need 3-4 vaccines a years, continuously to alter the spike protein production according to their prediction of
covid variant, in order to produce a constant immune response, while in toxic state?
Anyone who refuses experimental drug that provokes high toxicity with synthesized mRNA to provoke hyper spike protein production is labeled antivaxer
Human immune response is successful at a demonstrable rate of at least %99.97 and high for those under 75 years and far superior to experimental drugs
If you refuse experimental unapproved high risk drugs you want to kill grandma
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What do ya wanna bet that right wingnut gnukid got the vaccine?
I bet his momma said he was not allowed home to see momma if he didn’t get his shots, and he said “yes ma’am!”
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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looks like they need to go door to door with needle in hand in mexicali and tijuana, secretary of health here says if no improvement in 10 days
they're back in the red 
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. Historically, less than 10% of vaccine side effects are reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS). An investigation by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services put it as low as 1%. What this means is side effects may actually be 10
times or even 100 times higher than reported.
VAERS appears to be backlogged for months. Rare but serious side effects may be occurring but we just can’t see the trend, and the longer the
backlog, the more people will be exposed to a potentially dangerous vaccine.
Keep in mind this experimental injection is irreversible with unknown long-term harm. There is no way to get it out of your system.
Fully searchable database here
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
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gnukid
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If you believe in infection as means of transmission to provoke presence of influenza type symptoms, natural recuperation provides the highest level
of protection from future infection or transmission and recuperated people share successful antibody intelligence with others, creating herd immunity,
while c@v “vaccines” are not actually vaccines and provide no protection from future infection, transmission, nor ability to share antibody
intelligence according to manufacturers, CDC and evidence.
The mRNA gene therapy products clearly state in the insert, there are no Covid vaccines, there are experimental trials of types of synthesized mRNA
that propagate hyper spike protein production, which is similar to expression of severe toxicity, not a healthy state like recuperated.
The injection is wrapped in a jacket of nano particles to bypass rejection and attack which is our normal response, to allow the injection to enter
the cell and insert into DNA transcription to RNA process and replicate forever, meaning your body is permanently in a debilitated state similar to
infected state during expression of viral symptoms.
Naturally recuperated from flu like symptoms is far superior to synthetic mRNA insertion to provoke hyper spike protein production. An inability to
understand this basic concept is not unlike inability to understand putting your hand in fire will cause severe burning.
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Austrian Court Rules PCR Test Not Suitable For COVID-19 Diagnosis And That Lockdowns Has No Legal Basis
https://greatgameindia.com/austria-court-pcr-test/
Origin of Covid — Following the Clues
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-th...
Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests ‘Unreliable’ & Quarantines ‘Unlawful’
https://principia-scientific.com/portuguese-court-rules-pcr-...
Coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spik...
COVID-19 can affect the blood. Its spike protein may be the culprit.
https://news.northeastern.edu/2021/02/08/covid-19-can-affect...
Synthetic Viral Genomics: Risks and Benefits for Science and Society
https://www.jcvi.org/sites/default/files/assets/projects/syn...
Serial Criminals: Pfizer to pay $2.3 billion, agrees to criminal plea
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-idUSTRE...
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Paul,
You got the vaccine, and then come here to say the vaccine is bad.
You are a narcissistic, hypocritical troll.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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Wtf Mt your the number one Troll on this site . Calling him a troll? Are you brain dead ? . He has some very good points. On the other hand your
garbage is just that .
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No.
I like beer, better than most people.
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What ever happened to..."My body, my choice"??
It was such a popular chant for years...
Or is that just for abortions??
I must have missed or misread the memo.......
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| Quote: Originally posted by Finchaser2020 | What ever happened to..."My body, my choice"??
It was such a popular chant for years...
Or is that just for abortions??
I must have missed or misread the memo....... |
There is no bigger hypocrite than a Lefty.
Follow the science, except don't follow the science when you want to placate teachers unions. Hell, let them draft the "science reports."
Don't travel for Spring break, says Michigan's governor. after taking a private jet to see her father in FL.
Don't divert a few million from the national stock pile to fortify the wall says Nancy P., then she and the lib media is silent as billions are
diverted the last couple months to house and ship kids all over the US from the self-created crisis at the border ($700/day per kid).
No in person classes in California, then governor Newsome sends his kids to in person private school.
Cry about kids in cages, then don't say a peep when there are 10x more kids in cages.
AOC and the Squad say white ppl are racists, then rant every day at Israel (using anti-Semitic language) for defending itself against a US declared
terrorist organization.
President finally says masks aren't needed if you are vaccinated, and tells ppl to "be respectful" of ppl who choose not to wear a mask, forgetting
how he called others neanderthals after state govt's made the same announcement, just a few weeks earlier.
You could list a thousand more.
[Edited on 5-19-2021 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by Finchaser2020 | What ever happened to..."My body, my choice"??
It was such a popular chant for years...
Or is that just for abortions??
I must have missed or misread the memo....... |
There is no bigger hypocrite than a Lefty.
Follow the science, except don't follow the science when you want to placate school unions. Don't travel for Spring break, says Michigan's govt.
after taking a private jet to see her father in FL. Don't divert a few million from the national stock pile to fortify the wall, then divert billions
to house and ship kids all over the US from the self-created crisis at the border ($700/day per kid). No in person classes, then CA governor Newsome
sends his kids to school. Cry about kids in cages, then don't say a peep when there are 10x more kids in cages. AOC and the Squad say white ppl are
racists, then rant every day at Israel using anti-semitic language for defending itself against a terrorist organization. President finally says masks
aren't needed if you are vaccinated, and tells ppl to be respectful of ppl who choose not to wear a mask, forgetting how he called others neanderthals
after state govt. made the same announcement, just earlier.
You could list a thousand more.
[Edited on 5-18-2021 by JZ] |
There are no bigger capitalists today than the LEFT
The RIGHT didn't get the NASDAQ to sextuple in value in 20 years. (can you say social media creators)
I love my Porsche 911, soon to be a Taycan, thank you Elon.
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You better wake up and start paying attention to your party, other than the elites.
Goat wants to give all your money away and his ill conceived plans for free everything and payments to not work are going to devalue your $'s with
crippling inflation.
Wake up if you care about your kids or grand kids.
And as a white man of privilege keep an eye out for someone looking to take that Porsche off your hands and give it to someone less fortunate and
oppressed.
[Edited on 5-18-2021 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
You better wake up and start paying attention to your party, other than the elites.
Goat wants to give all your money away and his ill conceived plans for free everything and payments to not work are going to devalue your $'s with
crippling inflation.
Wake up if you care about your kids or grand kids.
And as a white man of privilege keep an eye out for someone looking to take that Porsche off your hands and give it to someone less fortunate and
oppressed.
[Edited on 5-18-2021 by JZ] |
Correct
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Hey JZ,
Facts is facts
Numbers WAY down - vaccines and "lockdowns" are working
no data showing significant mental impacts on young children
schools reopening safely
states opening back up
Economy is roaring back
anyone wanting to work can find jobs
I think what you are trying to say is THANKS JOE!
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Facts not Fraud
Vaccinated have extremely high rate of adverse affects and deaths according to CDC VAERS
nearly 200,000 injured and over 4,000 deaths reported in USA, small fraction of the total, 10,000 deaths in Europe
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
Adults have failed children in foisting unnecessary, harmful Covid-19 restrictions on them
https://www.city-journal.org/masking-children-unnecessary-an...
Angry father speaks out at school board meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIR8UVBu4sc
Fourth grader who spoke out against school mask mandate said he 'wanted to take a stand'
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fourth-grader-agains...
Schools reopening safely
How lockdown has affected children’s speech – and what parents can do to help
https://theconversation.com/how-lockdown-has-affected-childr...
States opening back up
Due to differing lockdown orders, New York has more COVID-19 cases, deaths, hospitalizations and job losses than Florida
https://fee.org/articles/free-states-faring-far-better-than-...
Cuomo policy may have led to over 1,000 nursing home deaths, watchdog says
https://nypost.com/2021/02/18/cuomo-policy-may-have-led-to-1...
NY nursing home staffers still not vaccinated against COVID-19
https://nypost.com/2021/05/09/many-ny-nursing-home-staffers-...
https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nur...
Cuomo aide Melissa DeRosa admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn’t find out
Dr. Fauci lied to Congress about Wuhan lab research funding
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rand-paul-dr-fauci-lied-congre...
America's Historic Unemployment
https://fee.org/articles/america-s-historic-unemployment-cli...
[Edited on 5-19-2021 by gnukid]
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"extremely high rate of adverse affects"
"200,000 injured"
276,000,000 doses have been delivered in US (look it up)
200,000 / 276,000,000 * 100 = 0.07%
Sounds like an extremely low rate of adverse effects to me.
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I'm sorry if this is news to you, or if you are being facetious about the amount of covid vaccine severe adverse affects in the USA and globally? Many
cases are in courts globally today to hold municipalities and governments liable for harm.
The VAERS system captures only a small fraction of total injuries due to complexity to enter data, when people are sick or dead, they are unable to
enter data, and are most often left out the system, the total number is between 10-100 times higher than reported.
covid vaccine injured USA
200,000 (10-100) = 2,000,000-20,000,000 injured
covid vaccine deaths USA
4,000 (10-100) = 40,000-400,000
The PCR is an invalid test for COVID isolation, there are currently no valid tests for COVID.
There are currently no COVID vaccines approved, there are only experimental gene therapy products never ever been used and have insufficient data set
for approval. This is a public trial with no animal testing.
The experimental mRNA products do not provide protection from infection nor transmission, they intentionally enter the cell in a jacket of nano
particles to insert in the DNA to mRNA transcription process to induce hyper spike protein production, permanently, as though you are in a permanent
state of toxic infection. Actual affects are unknown since data has NOT been gathered due to lack of testing. We will know more each year.
The vaccine manufacturers have a demonstrated history of fraud and harm, resulting in billions of dollars of fines.
Data Points
Austrian Court Rules PCR Test Not Suitable For COVID-19 Diagnosis And That Lockdowns Has No Legal Basis
https://greatgameindia.com/austria-court-pcr-test/
Origin of Covid — Following the Clues
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-th...
Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests ‘Unreliable’ & Quarantines ‘Unlawful’
https://principia-scientific.com/portuguese-court-rules-pcr-...
Coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spik...
COVID-19 can affect the blood. Its spike protein may be the culprit.
https://news.northeastern.edu/2021/02/08/covid-19-can-affect...
Synthetic Viral Genomics: Risks and Benefits for Science and Society
https://www.jcvi.org/sites/default/files/assets/projects/syn...
Serial Criminals: Pfizer to pay $2.3 billion, agrees to criminal plea
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-idUSTRE...
COVID Vaccine and Genetic Thunder Nobody Is Listening To
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/jon-rappoport/covid-vacc...
A ripe time for gaining ground
https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/514403a
Safety lapses in US government labs spark debate
https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/nature.2014.15570
Risks of flu work underrated
https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/511013a
Scientists call for urgent talks on mutant-flu research in Europe
https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/nature.2013.14429
Controversial H5N1 influenza work likely to resume
https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/nature.2012.12089
Call to censor flu studies draws fire
https://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/481009a
US announces rules for potential bioterror agents
http://blogs.nature.com/news/2014/09/us-announces-rules-for-...
White House announcement
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-diligence-as...
Fauci's Claim That the NIH Never Funded Gain-of-Function Research at the Wuhan Lab Has Some Serious Holes
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/...
DR REINER FUELLMICH SAY THE PANDEMIC IS CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY
https://www.b-tchute.com/video/hrk6T9k7ezwz/
Europe 10,000 deaths from covid vaccines and rising
https://eraoflight.com/2021/04/26/7766-dead-330218-injuries-...
Europe Covid Vaccines injuries and deaths (use the tool to continue search)
Europe (Moderna Only)
https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&...
Europe (Pfizer Only)
https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&...
Europe (AstraZeneca Only)
https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&...
Europe (Jansen Only)
https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analyticsSOAP/saw.dll?PortalPages&...
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