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[*] posted on 12-12-2014 at 05:38 PM
Baja Nomads Searching for a Lost Mission and finding so much more!


One of the great things the Baja Internet does is bring us Baja nuts together on adventures. Baja is a land of mystery and adventure, and it doesn't take a lot of effort to drive a few hours and be in the middle of it all!

IT'S QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY of Baja trips you can have that makes the best memories.

A little over 3 years ago, with some satellite image hints provided by Baja Nomad member 'elbeau', we had a chance to search for one of the most famous LOST MISSIONs in Baja California, Santa Isabel!

No official record ever mentions it, but the legend was born following the quick round-up of all the Jesuit priests from the peninsula at the end of 1767 and their forced removal across the Sea of Cortez in February, 1768.

When the Spanish authorities found only impoverished churches and no gold, pearls or silver (other than altar pieces), it was deemed that the Jesuits received advanced warning of their removal and created one final secret mission to hide the treasures they must have collected in their 72 years on the California peninsula.... a mission named Santa Isabel.

Nomads dtbushpilot, XRPhlang, BAJACAT, bajalou, David K, El Vergel, TW (and his brother Bill) met up along the way and at the campsite location where the vehicles could go no further (Arroyo el Volcán, 2 miles from El Mármol, the onyx mine).

Please enjoy a first or repeat look at the many photos and story, and I hope it inspires you to seek an adventure in Baja, or at least dream of one at home!

SEE: Desert Adventure, Interesting Geology, The Lost Mission site, Barite and Onyx mines, a COLD water geyser, and much more...

PART 1: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52696

PART 2: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52735

PART 3: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52779

PART 4: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52804

PART 5: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52833

PART 6: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52864

This was bajalou's final Baja adventure before he left this world for another, we miss Lou and his great enthusiasm he had for Baja!




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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 08:11 AM
The 2011 Lost Mission Hunters




'bajalou' (Lou) and 'BAJACAT' (José)



'XRPhlang' (Phil) and 'dtbushpilot' (David)



'El Vergel' (Vern), Bill W and 'TW' (Tom)



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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 12:30 PM


That was a fun and exciting trip.
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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 01:03 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
That was a fun and exciting trip.


Indeed... and good exercise too!

We have more lost missions (Santa Clara), lost graves (Melchoir Diaz), and many mysteries to solve!




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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 01:28 PM


Are there rooms at any of the ranchos on the way to the geyser? Sounds like a real hoot to go see it. Any guesses as to when it goes off?
Great inspirational report. Gotta get out more.
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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 03:18 PM


Thanks for posting the links, it is good to put faces to user names I have seen so often. I can also stop visualizing Indiana Jones type characters when I read of your exploits, heck, you guys look like me!



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Quote: Originally posted by elfbrewery  
Are there rooms at any of the ranchos on the way to the geyser? Sounds like a real hoot to go see it. Any guesses as to when it goes off?
Great inspirational report. Gotta get out more.


There are no ranchos along the way, except for Rancho (Cafe) Sonora, which is next to the turnoff on Hwy. 1 for food, onyx gifts, etc. The other nearby ranches are working farms or cattle ranches, along the old main road.

No idea when the geyser erupts other than 'monthly'. One would have to be so lucky to witness an eruption!

Baja Cactus Motel is the Nomad lodge of choice (owned by a Nomad too), if you don't camp. Located in El Rosario, just over an hour on Hwy. 1 away. The Hotel Mision Cataviña and Cabanas Linda is even closer in Cataviña, maybe less than a half hour away, the other direction.




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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 06:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Thanks for posting the links, it is good to put faces to user names I have seen so often. I can also stop visualizing Indiana Jones type characters when I read of your exploits, heck, you guys look like me!


You got that right!

HERE'S THE STORY...
We are Baja Brothers and Sisters who believe in friendship, exploration, helping each other, helping the people of Baja! Like any big family, there are spats among us, but for those who want to get along we can respect our differences for a more enjoyable life. I have met, camped, partied, and worked with so many folks I have met on the Internet first, then in person later.

If you want to see what many Nomads look like, enjoy the photos taken at camping events (BBBB, 2001-2002 and Matomi Gang, 2001-2004), my Viva Baja parties (2000-2003), The Pyramid Resort Book Signings (2003-2008), Baja Cactus events in Tijuana and El Rosario (2004-2007).

Before we were Baja Nomads (2002+), we were Amigos de Baja members (up to 2003).

Here is the very first get together organized by Timothy Walker and myself to meet each other and anyone else who wanted to... at the San Clemente Pier in Feb. 2000:


Giesla Van Bree, Mike Humfreville, Mary Ann Humfreville, Graham Mackintosh.


Graham Mackintosh, Michelle (M).


Lorenzo de Baja (LdB) arrives.


El Gato Loco (egl/ Matt) and Baja Barb and Norm of BajaLinks.com


Ferna de Tijuana (FdT)


Jens (Yens) of Baja-Web.com and his guest.


Whistler (Glenn)

Also there was Timothy Walker (TimsBaja.com), Carlos Fiesta (BajaExpo.com), GregN (Baja Fever author), and Dick Van Bree (BajaLinks.com)... sadly, I didn't get their photos on my little camera.

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Of those who attended, elgatoloco, Whistler, fdt (Ferna de Tijuana), Graham, GregN, and David K are still active on the forums and Dick Van Bree still is hosting Baja web sites.

I was strongly requested to do another get together, and before the year was over, I hosted Viva Baja (#1)... and that's when I met Doug (Baja Nomad) and many more web site hosts who accepted my invitation to Baja web site managers, Baja business owners, Baja book authors, and Baja enthusiasts: http://www.vivabaja.com/vivabaja/index.html

We held the even at a restaurant, served dinner and drinks, had door prizes to give away, did a Baja 'show and tell', had some video clips, it was just a super event.

Viva Baja #2, in 2001 was even bigger, more prizes too: http://www.vivabaja.com/vivabaja2/index.html

Viva Baja #3 had over 100 attendees this time at a restaurant in Oceanside we had for the whole day, also some short films added in: http://www.vivabaja.com/vivabaja3/index.html

Viva Baja #4 was a bit smaller by design, but still a full house in Capistrano Beach: http://www.vivabaja.com/vivabaja4/index.html

In 2006, I helped Antonio (Baja Cactus) promote and host a tour and dinner in Tijuana, we called Viva Baja Cactus: http://www.vivabaja.com/vivabajacactus/index.html
Met many new Nomads and my future co-author, Max Kurillo of 6 years later!

The BBBB and Matomi and Pyramid Resort event photos are all linked on my home page: http://vivabaja.com (the newer web site name came after my first parties, thanks to Doug who secured it...)



[Edited on 12-14-2014 by David K]




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[*] posted on 12-13-2014 at 09:13 PM


Currently the mine past El Volcan, La Olividada, has been activated and there is all sorts of activity from Rt. 1 all the way to the onyx mine and beyond.

The effect of this is that, on one hand, the road beyond the onyx mine may be much improved but, on the other hand, you might get run over by some giant truck on the way.

As of late October this year they were still at it.

Barbara and I rode to the geyser a few years ago on motorcycles. There were some significant washouts just past El Marmol. She stood back as I looked down the hole. I'm still here!

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[*] posted on 12-14-2014 at 09:37 AM


David. You forgot me. I was living in San Clemente at the time and suggested the restaurant. I too was there.



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Quote: Originally posted by GregN  
David. You forgot me. I was living in San Clemente at the time and suggested the restaurant. I too was there.


OMG yes! I wish I had more photos to help my memory... After the daytime meeting on the pier, we went to the Mexican restaurant. Graham Mackintosh rode up there with me, and I forgot we had another Baja book author in attendance, you!




After that meeting you went to work on the next book, and even used a story I had heard in Baja later that year, in the new book...





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Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
Currently the mine past El Volcan, La Olividada, has been activated and there is all sorts of activity from Rt. 1 all the way to the onyx mine and beyond.

The effect of this is that, on one hand, the road beyond the onyx mine may be much improved but, on the other hand, you might get run over by some giant truck on the way.

As of late October this year they were still at it.

Barbara and I rode to the geyser a few years ago on motorcycles. There were some significant washouts just past El Marmol. She stood back as I looked down the hole. I'm still here!



Correct, the barite mined at La Olvidada is important in the oil drilling business! They had graded the road from El Marmol to La Olvidada just before our 2011 expedition. In Part 3 of the trip report, we all went to the end of the road at La Olvidada. Great view down to the islands south of Puertecitos.

We heard that the mine company would build a road down to Hwy. 5, way below... El Huerfanito/ Okie Landing area... that would be a perfect short cut for autos, if open to the public.




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[*] posted on 12-14-2014 at 01:48 PM


It is always fun to put a pic to a name.

Great thread!







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[*] posted on 12-14-2014 at 03:19 PM


I'm about ready for a new adventure, I've spent all the money I got for my share of the Padre gold....oh wait, was I supposed to keep that a secret? Never mind.....



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[*] posted on 12-14-2014 at 03:20 PM


I wondered what they were mining there. The Almanac has the old mine labelled 'Oro'. Different gold in them thar hills these days.
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[*] posted on 12-14-2014 at 03:24 PM


Almanac error. Barite was originally mentioned in the 1990s. Baja has other barite mines. One used to be near Camalu 50+ years ago.



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[*] posted on 12-15-2014 at 02:25 PM


DK, after all these years and now that you've spent all the treasure, don't you think it's time to tell everyone the truth about what you found at Rancho Elbeau?:



:yes:

All joking aside, the group that actually made the trip based on my overzealous use of Google Earth deserves a special place in Nomad history. While it taught me how to eat a little humble pie and not place too much credibility on Google Earth's "Zoom" button, it also showed me that there are still adventurous people in this world. All of you are completely awesome!
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----------I heard that David K moved to new digs, but never imagined THIS !!!!!! Your secret is OUT !!!

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This is all I need, but thanks!





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