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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Two things that almost all my friends agree upon.
The border wait crossing north has pretty much ended ALL day-tripping or short trips and, well, the economy sucks...
Both easy fixes, right? |
This is what I'm asking. Answers to these problems.
Thanks, Frank, for seeing the obvious picture.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
Above posts have many good points but a major factor is that many people, especially the younger folks, simply don't have the funds for travel that
they did in the past. |
You are right. And Baja is no longer perceived as a bargain by budget tourists- who are/were most of us. Many people do not understand the peso
exchange rates and end up paying "too much"when using their dollars. The border construction will be a problem for two more years. Visiting tourists
will not have SENTRI and the Fast Pass Lane is hit or miss.
I haven't heard any updates on Rosarito Beach Spring Break 2012 - but the passport requirements (and parental concerns) make it difficult in past
years for the college bus groups to return in big numbers. Club Macho Taco is back open in Rosarito (thanks to a Hugo Torres son) but most all the
clientele, even on weekends, is Mexican- not many US college kids. I think the higher end resorts (Cancun, Cabo) where tourists fly in are doing a
lot better- perhaps because of the value built into the travel packages.
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bajaguy
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Dedicated return lanes
| Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
How about thinking towards 2040 and going with 48 or 60 northbound lanes at SY instead of 36? |
For US Citizens/US Passport holders
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
For US Citizens/US Passport holders |
You think Mexico would stand for that exclusivity from their soil?
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
New northbound border crossing from playas. Never gonna happen but it would be nice. |
It would certainly be a welcome addition and bring tourists directly to Playas and the toll road bypassing Tijuana completely.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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DENNIS
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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=58468
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Woooosh
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How about a high speed entertainment catamaran operation running between downtown San Diego and Ensenada? (Like the ones from Boston to Provincetown)
http://www.boston-ptown.com/schedule.html
[Edited on 2-26-2012 by Woooosh]
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
For US Citizens/US Passport holders |
You think Mexico would stand for that exclusivity from their soil? |
If it increases the number of visitors/tourists from the US, why not???...........the US and Mexico could do a test period of 3-6 months and see what
happens
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If it increases the number of visitors/tourists from the US, why not |
National pride comes to mind. I would feel the same way if Mexicans had an exclusive lane to the gate that stretched up our freeway. Wouldn't you?
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desertcpl
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sorry Dennis, didn't follow that one.
I agree with the wait times, I here it so many times here in Yuma, most people say its just not worth it.
and so mush more about the legal system needing to take a better approach to the criminals. Just like the Cruise ship passengers being robbed, we all
know that the Cartels are not involved with this. why would they Rob there best customers,
[Edited on 2-27-2012 by desertcpl]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
How about a high speed entertainment catamaran operation running between downtown San Diego and Ensenada? |
Now...why didn't the best thinkers in the world come up with this wonderful idea to "make it all go away?"
You da man, Woooosh. 
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sancho
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For the driving into Baja, I think us on this board
may exaggerate the # of US Tourists who have EVER
FELT COMFORTABLE driving down. Posters on BN have
a different view of Baja than someone who has
no experience driving in Mex. To me there is a
difference in those Gringos who will fly, cruise,
as opposed to driving. The border wait will never
change except for some major expansion of lanes,
the US economy may stay stagnent for yrs. To hope
for new tourists to drive into Mex may be wishful thinking,
although bajanomad.com, correction, I meant to say bajabound Mex Ins, had a recent post stating
business was good from the start of this yr. Not
sure the permits ? stops folks from driving across.
Catamaran? read just the other day off the Ensenada
paper that a ferry of some sorts, from San Diego to
Ensenada is in the planning
stages, don't know how far along
[Edited on 2-27-2012 by sancho]
[Edited on 2-27-2012 by sancho]
[Edited on 2-27-2012 by sancho]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
read just the other day off the Ensenada
paper that a ferry of some sorts is in the planning
stages, don't know how far along
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Well....he's not going to do anything about the problem by himself. He'll need the help of a "permissive" government....doncha think.
Times are changeing, however. 
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Gypsy Jan
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How to Promote Tourism?
Lavish TV advertisements showing the natural beauty of Baja.
Promote the All-inclusive resorts in Cabo for the timid.
Promote ecotourism, featuring the historic biological reserves and how to visit.
Feature La Paz as a historical place to visit to understand "La Conquistadora".
Feature Ensenada and the adjacent Valle de Guadulupe as the "Napa Valley of Baja"'
Feature the revitalized Tijuana as the gourmet destination in a sophisticated metropolitan city as seen with Mision 19, Caesars , Erbizo, LA Querencia
and so many others that I haven't visited.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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bajadock
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
How about a high speed entertainment catamaran operation running between downtown San Diego and Ensenada? (Like the ones from Boston to Provincetown)
http://www.boston-ptown.com/schedule.html
[Edited on 2-26-2012 by Woooosh] |
San Diego-Ensenada Water Taxi
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BigOly
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Why not just open the border? Free trade and the best deal wins. If you don't want it, don't buy it. No hassel border crossing. You get caught
being a bad guy you suffer, not the victim. Go, have fun in the sun! There's mostly one way in and one way out of Baja. If you are bad, you should
pay for hurting people..
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Lavish TV advertisements showing the natural beauty of Baja.
Promote the All-inclusive resorts in Cabo for the timid.
Promote ecotourism, featuring the historic biological reserves and how to visit.
Feature La Paz as a historical place to visit to understand "La Conquistadora".
Feature Ensenada and the adjacent Valle de Guadulupe as the "Napa Valley of Baja"'
Feature the revitalized Tijuana as the gourmet destination in a sophisticated metropolitan city as seen with Mision 19, Caesars , Erbizo, LA Querencia
and so many others that I haven't visited. |
Good ideas, Jan. Really good, but we still arn't addressing the negatives. Those are the hinderance.
How do we truthfully say to a traveling public that the negatives are no longer there?
Telling them that something else is pretty shouldn't be able to cover that.
Hey.....I appreciate everybody's input, but most of it misses the mark.
What I asked for is methods to do away with the real reasons for our demise...the crime, economy and the border wait.
So far...no one ['cept Frank] has offered sht.....which leads me to believe there is no answer.
Now.....if that doesn't bother you Baja lovers....nothing will.
But.....as we are adventurers, of a sort, accept the reality and save your Baja photos. That's what your grandkids will need to identify you with
your decisions.
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Woooosh
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4 hours and $30. I was thinking of a faster boat I guess...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Woooosh
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ah... an exercise in futility. "Do you want to play a game?..." 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo
[Edited on 2-27-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Pompano
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Actually, I think that just being part of this forum, posting ideas, photos, trip reports, whatever... is doing a good service to promote Baja
tourism. I can't imagine a better PR firm for Baja than Baja Nomads, can you? I and many other posters who have informed me, get emails from many
different countries saying how much they are looking forward to experiencing the same Baja things we are writing about.
A great way to advertise our beloved land. So yeah...it's about getting the word out. People read this forum by the thousands worldwide...and they
are able to pick out the chaff from the kernels.
I'd say ..Keep it up, nomads!
[Edited on 2-27-2012 by Pompano]
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