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bajaguy
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Totoaba Poaching Arrests
From ensenada.net
Article posted August 5, 2014
by Karla Lorena Lamas
By attempting to smuggle a shipment of Totoaba, with an estimated value on the black market for between 35 and 60 thousand dollars, two subjects
received formal arrest by the Third District Court located in Baja California.
The specimens are listed in the NOM-059-SEMARNAT-2010 Category endangered, however, the demand for this product is high because attributed alleged
aphrodisiac properties.
On July 20, the Federal Attorney for Environmental Protection (Profepa) arrested four suspected smugglers transporting fresh shipment of six dead
specimens seven steaks, and 12 swish, taken in Caracol fishing camp located south of the port of San Felipe. Our final destination was the Asian
market.
The investigations locate those responsible and stop them when they fled overland in a trailer and dragged the boat carrying the team poaching as a
network of 600 meters long, a network of silk 150 meters long, both Special mesh ten inch Totoaba.
Those arrested were referred to the Federal Public Ministry, where one of them was credited with false identity, but to corroborate official data
proved to be located by the court as a recidivist in this kind of illegal.
In a statement reiterated that Totoaba Profepa macdonaldi is endemic to the northern Gulf of California or Sea of Cortés, which, due to
overexploitation, its population dwindled alarmingly up dangerously close to near extinction; therefore decree became a protected species.
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airmech
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Mexico tries hard to stop things??? This is how mexico tries hard to stop things. Refer to this post "Can anybody stop the madness??" under Baja
fishing and hunting. Read those posts and tell me again how hard Mexico tries.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=74770
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SFandH
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http://www.iucn-csg.org/index.php/vaquita/
"The Mexican Government has made an enormous economic and political investment in supporting vaquita conservation. To date, about 26 million USD has
been spent to reduce fishing effort in a region where fishing is the main economic activity. This has been accomplished via buy-out/rent-out,
improved surveillance and enforcement, providing socioeconomic alternatives to fishermen, and testing alternative fishing gear. However, despite
these efforts, about 600 artisanal boats (pangas) continue to fish with gillnets within the range of the vaquita. Given the critically small size of
the vaquita population, time is running out. Unless bycatch is completely eliminated by banning entangling nets throughout the species’ range, the
vaquita will soon join the baiji as a second cetacean species to be rendered extinct by human actions."
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airmech
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So what would you suggest the people who are in the the post above try to do. This is going on right now as we speak. Long lines, turtles caught up
in them, no one to report it to. Its nice to state statitics listed in an article but its action that counts. Guess we just have to wait for 100
dorado to be left before invovlement occurs.
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bajaguy
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For starters, the Mexican Navy could get involved. If they are going to be out driving around, they might as well do something productive
| Quote: | Originally posted by airmech
So what would you suggest the people who are in the the post above try to do. This is going on right now as we speak. Long lines, turtles caught up
in them, no one to report it to. Its nice to state statitics listed in an article but its action that counts. Guess we just have to wait for 100
dorado to be left before invovlement occurs. |
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by airmech
So what would you suggest the people who are in the the post above try to do. |
The scientists that wrote this report:
http://www.iucn-csg.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Report-of...
say:
"Unless bycatch is completely eliminated by banning entangling nets throughout the species’ range, the vaquita will soon join the baiji as a
second cetacean species to be rendered extinct by human actions."
I have no idea about the likelihood of successfully banning "entangling nets" throughout the vaquita's range.
[Edited on 8-6-2014 by SFandH]
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Things we can do:
1- Work seriously on cost effective ocean desalinization.
2- Be serious about desalinization.
3- Stop sapping the Colorado River and start supplying California and elsewhere with desalinated Pacific Ocean water.
VERY simple. We are spending billions on solar energy that is ultimately a joke. Companies go out of business and cant support there product for the
long term.
WATER is more important than the ever elusive feel good green energy projects.
Seems simple enough.
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Things we can do:
1- Work seriously on cost effective ocean desalinization.
2- Be serious about desalinization.
3- Stop sapping the Colorado River and start supplying California and elsewhere with desalinated Pacific Ocean water.
VERY simple. We are spending billions on solar energy that is ultimately a joke. Companies go out of business and cant support there product for the
long term.
WATER is more important than the ever elusive feel good green energy projects.
Seems simple enough. |
What does any of that have to do with the subject of the thread?
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Tioloco
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Restoring fresh water to the delta.
Trying to do something about our contribution to the problem, instead of saying Mexico should stop it.
Mexico is never going to have that as their priority when the majority of their people are living at their level. Basic necessities are far more
important than to worry about some fish...... Just the way it is.
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Saw 4 manatees today, very neat creatures. Making a comeback? Never saw any before. Vaquita? Wish 'em luck.
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Tioloco
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SF &H-
I live in the area and see that Mexicos enforcement of illegal anything in the upper sea of cortez is a sad joke. Unfortunately, we may lose this
species soon, but if we don't get serious about our water sources north of the border.... This is going to be the first of many.
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
Restoring fresh water to the delta.
Trying to do something about our contribution to the problem, instead of saying Mexico should stop it.
Mexico is never going to have that as their priority when the majority of their people are living at their level. Basic necessities are far more
important than to worry about some fish...... Just the way it is. |
OK but the problem is fishermen supplying the Chinese, who are creating the demand and bycatch in nets. Restore all the fresh water you want, but the
problem won't go away, according the scientists studying the problem.
Interesting how you connected solar energy and ocean desalination with the extinction of this species.
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Tioloco
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I guess living on the east shore of the colorado river, the sky is a different blue for me.
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Tioloco
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Is anyone else noticing a pattern? Our trade relationship with China has given their average citizen expendible income like never before. Leading to
them coming to the sea of cortez last year and buying up all of the jellyfish they could get. Vaquita and other species are surely just the start.
Literally buying tons and tons of jellyfish. Never seen that before. Is there a study that shows what the impact of that will be? There is no single
answer to this problem. I was trying to point out that we (USA) aren't doing anything to make the situation any better.
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Hola Nomads,
Years ago Chris Johnson made a documentary about the Vaquita and it provides some great background and insight. For me the key segment is #6
Communities, where fishing cooperative president Miguel Reyes talks about the situation. Here is the link:
http://vaquita.tv/documentary/introduction/
The documentary and IUCN articles clearly demonstrate that the science/data is solid but the strategies regarding fishers (commercial &
small-scale) did not generate the required buy-in from them. They are the key to this whole issue. There are a number of factors for this including
the general Mexican distrust/hatred for government and its agencies, push-back by CONAPESCA, corruption, greed/the race for fish & shrimp, the
need to fish by guys trying to play by the rules, and finally the lack of a deep understanding of fishers by the Mex government and NGOs. An example
of the latter (lack of understanding) is what happened with the permit/equipment buy-back program. Fishers sold old pangas, barely running motors,
and non-productive permits then used that money to buy new gear, including gill-nets. Armadores and phantom fishing cooperative owners took 70% of
the program revenue. Commercial fishers, well you know.
As I mentioned earlier, the only card left to be played is a complete 3-5 year fishing ban (zero tolerance) followed by a new Vaquita population
assessment. This ban must be initiated along with comprehensive alternatives to fishers - pay them a living salary to: 1. enroll in school (any
grade level); 2. work on community development programs (build schools, clinics, parks/rec areas, fish hatcheries, wetland restoration etc); 3.
enroll in existing eco-tourism/language/sustainable fisheries courses, 4. hire these guys to go out as vigilancia effort (zero fishing gear permitted
on pangas), the list goes on and on.
In 2005, this was my recommendation to the key players. I was unable to get involved, at the time as I was leading the effort in Laguna San Ignacio.
The key to the Vaquita's survival is to get the fishers to immediately stop by providing real alternatives to keep families alive. There is 100 left
and for me, hope springs eternal. It is not going to be easy but it can be done.
Regarding what people can do about issues throughout the gulf -
Shari in the "Madness" thread hit it on the head with urging people to file a complaint with CONAPESCA at:
http://sidepi.conapesca.gob.mx:8080/PescaIlegal.jsp
or, let us Vince Radice and Aaron Quintanar at World's Aquarium know, we'll take it to them. Please take pictures/video, get boat names/#'s, gps
coordinates, describe activity/gear sets/species, etc and send it to us.
vradice@gmail.com
Aqsurf@aol.com
Peace,
Aaron
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So glad you brought this plight back to the front page of people who love Baja.....
Half way through the video very moving.
Solution.. NO GILL NETS!!!!!!!!!!
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Tioloco
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Not being sarcastic, but if you shut down fishing altogether.... how do the people survive? What do they do for a living?
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As to shutting down fishing, how many people are you talking about? Could you even imagine the jobs and the influx of money if San Felipe actually had
viable sport fishing? There is nothing left there outside of some palm size Triggers and a few Corvina that make the wrong turn north.
[Edited on 8-7-2014 by redhilltown]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRat
NO GILL NETS!!!!!!!!!! |
YEP!!!!
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Isn't shrimping more destructive to other sea life?
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