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4x4abc
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which one is Arroyo Thule?
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PaulW
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Tule is same as Jaquegel
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Ken Cooke
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Bad Hill
This area around Jaquegel sounds like the canyons south of Neal Johns' "Bad Hill". Real sharp hills for a canyon in
that area.
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David K
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Correct! Spelled Jaquejel as well.
1962:
1941:
1930:
1905 published 1919:
Here is where 'Tule' is used...
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Agua Hedionda
Wow! That's a funny name!
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David K
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OK amigos with sharp eyes on Google Earth, find the rock-pile so we can photograph it from the ground.
Here are the three best arroyos in my opinion based on the letter.
The top one is Arroyo B... PaulW hiked into it from the north and found an impassable waterfall between the long valley and Arroyo Grande.
The middle one is Arroyo A... TW and XRPhil found a small dam that may hinder entering the inner area.
The lower one is about the last option... ???
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4x4abc
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I vote for "A"
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Then it's settled!
I hope elbeau is looking hard in those canyons for a rock-pile! Do you all remember the Santa Isabel Mission search we did in 2011 down Arroyo el
Volcan?
Here's a recap and links to the original trip report and photos/videos:
Baja Nomads Searching for a Lost Mission and finding so much more!
One of the great things the Baja Internet does is bring us Baja nuts together on adventures. Baja is a land of mystery and adventure, and it doesn't
take a lot of effort to drive a few hours and be in the middle of it all!
IT'S QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY of Baja trips you can have that makes the best memories.
A little over 3 years ago, with some satellite image hints provided by Baja Nomad member 'elbeau', we had a chance to search for one of the most
famous LOST MISSIONs in Baja California, Santa Isabel!
No official record ever mentions it, but the legend was born following the quick round-up of all the Jesuit priests from the peninsula at the end of
1767 and their forced removal across the Sea of Cortez in February, 1768.
When the Spanish authorities found only impoverished churches and no gold, pearls or silver (other than altar pieces), it was deemed that the Jesuits
received advanced warning of their removal and created one final secret mission to hide the treasures they must have collected in their 72 years on
the California peninsula.... a mission named Santa Isabel.
Nomads dtbushpilot, XRPhlang, BAJACAT, bajalou, David K, El Vergel, TW (and his brother Bill) met up along the way and at the campsite location where
the vehicles could go no further (Arroyo el Volcán, 2 miles from El Mármol, the onyx mine).
Please enjoy a first or repeat look at the many photos and story, and I hope it inspires you to seek an adventure in Baja, or at least dream of one at
home!
SEE: Desert Adventure, Interesting Geology, The Lost Mission site, Barite and Onyx mines, a COLD water geyser, and much more...
PART 1: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52696
PART 2: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52735
PART 3: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52779
PART 4: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52804
PART 5: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52833
PART 6: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52864
This was bajalou's final Baja adventure before he left this world for another, we miss Lou and his great enthusiasm he had for Baja!
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Interesting landmark.
31 deg. 23' 42.57 N
115 deg. 12' 33.13" W
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Edited the waypoint to plug into Google Earth. To get the degree symbol, Alt + 0186.
That's quite a survey cross... but not the cross or rock pile... but not far from where Walter parked the Model A!
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Thanks, didn't know how to do the deg. Symbol. I have looked at Google Earth and bing maps till it felt like my eyes would bleed.
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by ehall  | | Thanks, didn't know how to do the deg. Symbol. I have looked at Google Earth and bing maps till it felt like my eyes would bleed.
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Thank you for your interest and support of solving this decades long mystery!
Where are the TV crews... this has got to be as good as America Unearthed or the Superstition Mountain series!
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4x4abc
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Google Earth does not need any degrees etc
try this:
31 23 42.57 N, 115 12 33.13 W
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David K
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In any case, that is not a grave-like pile of rocks... Thanks Harald for letting us know Google made it easy to look at waypoints.
Ken came by here tonight and we had a meal and discussed the weekend coming up...
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This sounds like a great adventure. I really hope you are successful in finding the long lost rock pile!
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I'll pay real money for someone to go build a fake Diaz rock-pile at one of their locations before they get there this weekend!
 
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4x4abc
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I would spot the fake from 100 yards away
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elbeau
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Take it easy, I was just joking. 
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4x4abc
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I was joking, too!
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David K
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The Henderson discovered rocks had desert varnish on one side, indicating they were moved to the pile MANY years ago (400+ in this case).
Any fake rock piles would look freshly moved, not be coated with desert varnish, and this guy would not be under them...
[Edited on 4-2-2015 by David K]
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