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Bob, that is some list... proves the point that a state can have TOO MUCH government. No wonder people in CA are hurting, there's no money circulating
in private hands. The government has it all and tries to do it all... taking opportunity away from citizens (to provide better service and lower
prices).
If more government (socialism) is good, then why did the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics collapse? Too much power in the hands of too few people
does not serve the citizens other than to enslave them to dependence. It has been said that to surrender your liberty for security provides neither.
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A US issued passport.
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And what's the requirement for a Federal status? |
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It isn't that you can't or shouldn't, Ateo.
It's the hassle, politics and money involved.
Starting with you having to drive to one of the US port of entries and "import" the vehicle you wish to register. SOME vehicles you are not allowed to
import, no matter what, and by the time you are done with the import fees...upward of $400.00 US+ (I am not positive of this, since all I know is what
I have read on Nomads and other Baja bulletin boards.)
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I am ignorant. Can someone tell me why you can't or shouldn't register your vehicle in Mexico, once you live there permanently? This will prove my
newbie and dumbarse status. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It has been said that to surrender your liberty for security provides neither. |
"History of the Quote"
This statement was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759) which was
attributed to Franklin in the edition of 1812, but in a letter of September 27, 1760 to David Hume, he states that he published this book and denies
that he wrote it, other than a few remarks that were credited to the Pennsylvania Assembly, in which he served. The phrase itself was first used in a
letter from that Assembly dated November 11, 1755 to the Governor of Pennsylvania. An article on the origins of this statement here includes a scan
that indicates the original typography of the 1759 document, which uses an archaic form of "s": "Thoſe who would give up Essential Liberty to
purchaſe a little Temporary Safety, deſerve neither Liberty nor Safety." Researchers now believe that a fellow diplomat by the name of
Richard Jackson is the primary author of the book. With the information thus far available the issue of authorship of the statement is not yet
definitely resolved, but the evidence indicates it was very likely Franklin, who in the Poor Richard's Almanack of 1738 is known to have written a
similar proverb: "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."
Many paraphrased variants derived from this saying have arisen and have usually been incorrectly attributed to Franklin:
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither."
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Some prior threads regarding South Dakota vehicle registration:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=68010
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=61768
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=61311
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=55225
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=53029
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=48836
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=45710
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=34311
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=30448#pid3066...
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Not to be an alarmist, but one of the advantages of SD registration, no smog requirements, may be tested in the not too distant future here in Mexico.
It's been mentioned before, but there are two Smog Inspection stations in Ensenada, and more on the way.
Mexico tends to catch up slowly, but they do catch up.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It has been said that to surrender your liberty for security provides neither. |
"History of the Quote"
This statement was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759) which was
attributed to Franklin in the edition of 1812, but in a letter of September 27, 1760 to David Hume, he states that he published this book and denies
that he wrote it, other than a few remarks that were credited to the Pennsylvania Assembly, in which he served. The phrase itself was first used in a
letter from that Assembly dated November 11, 1755 to the Governor of Pennsylvania. An article on the origins of this statement here includes a scan
that indicates the original typography of the 1759 document, which uses an archaic form of "s": "Thoſe who would give up Essential Liberty to
purchaſe a little Temporary Safety, deſerve neither Liberty nor Safety." Researchers now believe that a fellow diplomat by the name of
Richard Jackson is the primary author of the book. With the information thus far available the issue of authorship of the statement is not yet
definitely resolved, but the evidence indicates it was very likely Franklin, who in the Poor Richard's Almanack of 1738 is known to have written a
similar proverb: "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."
Many paraphrased variants derived from this saying have arisen and have usually been incorrectly attributed to Franklin:
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither." |
Very good Dennis!
DK, I pity the generation(s) after us, my offsprings and grandchild included, as today imho life in the US is inferior compared to 30 years ago at my
prime. Our children despite of the better beginnings and education just are not having the same quality of life that we had then. I don't know if it's
an isolated situation but I see often many young adults need parents' help to keep up with their needs, rather than the other way around during our
prime, when we were the ones helping our parents who hailed from the depression era. I'm afraid that as soon as the $ is displaced as the intenational
currency, the US will follow the fate of USSR. We won't be able to just print money.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It has been said that to surrender your liberty for security provides neither. |
"History of the Quote"
This statement was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759) which was
attributed to Franklin in the edition of 1812, but in a letter of September 27, 1760 to David Hume, he states that he published this book and denies
that he wrote it, other than a few remarks that were credited to the Pennsylvania Assembly, in which he served. The phrase itself was first used in a
letter from that Assembly dated November 11, 1755 to the Governor of Pennsylvania. An article on the origins of this statement here includes a scan
that indicates the original typography of the 1759 document, which uses an archaic form of "s": "Thoſe who would give up Essential Liberty to
purchaſe a little Temporary Safety, deſerve neither Liberty nor Safety." Researchers now believe that a fellow diplomat by the name of
Richard Jackson is the primary author of the book. With the information thus far available the issue of authorship of the statement is not yet
definitely resolved, but the evidence indicates it was very likely Franklin, who in the Poor Richard's Almanack of 1738 is known to have written a
similar proverb: "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."
Many paraphrased variants derived from this saying have arisen and have usually been incorrectly attributed to Franklin:
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither." |
Very good Dennis!
DK, I pity the generation(s) after us, my offsprings and grandchild included, as today imho life in the US is inferior compared to 30 years ago at my
prime. Our children despite of the better beginnings and education just are not having the same quality of life that we had then. I don't know if it's
an isolated situation but I see often many young adults need parents' help to keep up with their needs, rather than the other way around during our
prime, when we were the ones helping our parents who hailed from the depression era. I'm afraid that as soon as the $ is displaced as the intenational
currency, the US will follow the fate of USSR. We won't be able to just print money. |
Art, you are so right on! Imagine our parents or grandparents being told that their 'children' need to be left on parent's health insurance until they
are 26! 
If you are 26 and still dependent on your parents, that is just sad...
However, the truth is our economy is so devastated by an ever growing, and fat government and stifling regulations against business, many of our kids
make little more than entry level wages... even with college degrees or technical training. More stupid government/ less freedom and opportunity.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
I pity the generation(s) after us, my offsprings and grandchild included, |
As I pity the relationship between parents and kids, which would be very quiet if the parent didn't have at least a basic understanding of computers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It has been said that to surrender your liberty for security provides neither. |
"History of the Quote"
This statement was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759) which was
attributed to Franklin in the edition of 1812, but in a letter of September 27, 1760 to David Hume, he states that he published this book and denies
that he wrote it, other than a few remarks that were credited to the Pennsylvania Assembly, in which he served. The phrase itself was first used in a
letter from that Assembly dated November 11, 1755 to the Governor of Pennsylvania. An article on the origins of this statement here includes a scan
that indicates the original typography of the 1759 document, which uses an archaic form of "s": "Thoſe who would give up Essential Liberty to
purchaſe a little Temporary Safety, deſerve neither Liberty nor Safety." Researchers now believe that a fellow diplomat by the name of
Richard Jackson is the primary author of the book. With the information thus far available the issue of authorship of the statement is not yet
definitely resolved, but the evidence indicates it was very likely Franklin, who in the Poor Richard's Almanack of 1738 is known to have written a
similar proverb: "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."
Many paraphrased variants derived from this saying have arisen and have usually been incorrectly attributed to Franklin:
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither." |
Very good Dennis!
DK, I pity the generation(s) after us, my offsprings and grandchild included, as today imho life in the US is inferior compared to 30 years ago at my
prime. Our children despite of the better beginnings and education just are not having the same quality of life that we had then. I don't know if it's
an isolated situation but I see often many young adults need parents' help to keep up with their needs, rather than the other way around during our
prime, when we were the ones helping our parents who hailed from the depression era. I'm afraid that as soon as the $ is displaced as the intenational
currency, the US will follow the fate of USSR. We won't be able to just print money. |
Art, you are so right on! Imagine our parents or grandparents being told that their 'children' need to be left on parent's health insurance until they
are 26!
If you are 26 and still dependent on your parents, that is just sad...
However, the truth is our economy is so devastated by an ever growing, and fat government and stifling regulations against business, many of our kids
make little more than entry level wages... even with college degrees or technical training. More stupid government/ less freedom and opportunity.
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My parents got insurance from their employers as well as a pension/retirement. That's not quite the case nowadays. But keep rambling away...I'm
sure someone is listening....
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Thanks for the explanation Udo.
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It isn't that you can't or shouldn't, Ateo.
It's the hassle, politics and money involved.
Starting with you having to drive to one of the US port of entries and "import" the vehicle you wish to register. SOME vehicles you are not allowed to
import, no matter what, and by the time you are done with the import fees...upward of $400.00 US+ (I am not positive of this, since all I know is what
I have read on Nomads and other Baja bulletin boards.)
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I am ignorant. Can someone tell me why you can't or shouldn't register your vehicle in Mexico, once you live there permanently? This will prove my
newbie and dumbarse status. |
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But keep rambling away...I'm sure someone is listening....
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Seems you are, Zac.
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You are welcome Ateo...
but with over 3100 posts on Nomad, you are a long way from a newbie!
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Thanks for the explanation Udo.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
It isn't that you can't or shouldn't, Ateo.
It's the hassle, politics and money involved.
Starting with you having to drive to one of the US port of entries and "import" the vehicle you wish to register. SOME vehicles you are not allowed to
import, no matter what, and by the time you are done with the import fees...upward of $400.00 US+ (I am not positive of this, since all I know is what
I have read on Nomads and other Baja bulletin boards.)
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I am ignorant. Can someone tell me why you can't or shouldn't register your vehicle in Mexico, once you live there permanently? This will prove my
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Here's some more info on importing
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Thanks for the explanation Udo.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
It isn't that you can't or shouldn't, Ateo.
It's the hassle, politics and money involved.
Starting with you having to drive to one of the US port of entries and "import" the vehicle you wish to register. SOME vehicles you are not allowed to
import, no matter what, and by the time you are done with the import fees...upward of $400.00 US+ (I am not positive of this, since all I know is what
I have read on Nomads and other Baja bulletin boards.)
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I am ignorant. Can someone tell me why you can't or shouldn't register your vehicle in Mexico, once you live there permanently? This will prove my
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www.carsdirect.com/car.../import-car-mexico-6-steps-needed-to-import-...
Import Car Mexico: 6 Steps Needed to Import a Car from the US to Mexico
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When trying to import a car to Mexico it is important that you follow all US import regulations and US import auto laws as well as those for Mexico.
There are two different ways you can get a US car into Mexico, one being importing and another by using an FM3 visa. However importing a vehicle is
normally the best option and is actually fairly easy.
1.Choosing the Car: Over the past few years Mexico passed an interesting law that to import a car into the country it has to be exactly 10 years old.
To qualify for importing the car has to be safe to use and in reasonable working condition. Passenger vehicles cannot carry more than 15 passengers.
Pickups with a full load cannot exceed 7,056 pounds and the vehicle identification number has to correspond to a US car.
2.Documentation: You will need the following documentation when visiting the Mexican customs agency, known as the Aduana. Take with you the
registration documents, sales receipt with a description of the model, vehicle make, importer name and value. This receipt must be from the
manufacturer or a distributor. You will need a certificate of origin document, import permit passport and several copies of your passport and a bill
that is less than 3 months old that shows your name and address.
3.Fees and Taxes to Import into Mexico: When you see the Mexican customs broker, then you will need to pay an import tax between $50 to $300, a
document validation fee, new vehicle tax if applicable and the Mexican value added tax. You have to wait 72 hours after obtaining an export stamp from
the US before you can bring the car into Mexico. If you enter before this period is up you will be fined $500.
4.Where to Import: The only port where you can drive a car from the US to Mexico to import it is through the Santa Teresa Port of Entry (note: that's
for mainland Mexico). There is a special US export lane that will look at all your documentation and make sure everything is in order.
5.Temporary Import Permit: If you are just travelling in Mexico, then you can get a temporary import permit. However, you do not need one to travel in
the border zone, Puerto Penasco and Baja. This permit can be obtained at the border crossing and is good for 6 months. However you must have your car
“checked out” before you leave the country and before the expiration date. This is very easy today as it is all computerized.
6.Coming back to the US: If you want to bring the car back into the US, then you can do this duty free. However, any repairs or accessories that were
done in Mexico will need to be declared. You will need proof of origin to be exempt from taxes. Your car also needs to meet all of the EPA standards
as many cars older than 1976 will not comply. The US government has several documents that detail how to import and export a vehicle that can be very
helpful
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..and this update:
www.tiocorpinsurance.com/.../importing-vehicles...mexico/other-vehicle..
Other Vehicles You Can Import in 2013
Other Vehicles You Can Import in 2013
Disclaimer: The information contained in this section may contain errors due to changes in legislation or policy since it was compiled. Readers are
advised to seek legal opinions concerning Mexico customs legislation and other laws in the applicable jurisdictions.
Currently, no other vehicles, other than NAFTA, can be imported
Foreign Vehicle Importation - Overview
The types of vehicles and years of vehicles that someone can permanently import into Mexico is tightly controlled and is restricted to vehicles
governed by the North America Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). NAFTA qualified vehicles are those manufactured after 1994 in Canada, the USA or Mexico,
and have a VIN starting with 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5.
Importing a vehicle into Mexico has become a hot topic as a result of the new immigration rules which require that FM2 and FM3 holders convert to
"permanent" residency (Residente Permanente) status after 4 years, which will result in the loss of their vehicle's Temporary Import Permit (TIP).
These folks will have to permanently import their vehicle and obtain Mexican plates, or remove it from Mexico. At the time of this writing, there are
questions about the time that might be allowed for someone going Residenté Permanenté to accomplish one of those options. Having said that, there are
debates going on everywhere about what laws apply, whether or not a vehicle can retain foreign plates under Residenté Permanenté and so on. However,
TIP's were designed to accommodate Temporary visitors to Mexico, not Permanent residents of Mexico.
That would mean that many foreign-plated vehicles would have to be taken out of Mexico.... (However...This does not currently apply to Baja or the AZ
border region).
Mexico-Plated Vehicle Insurance
"Plate Pending" Insurance for Mexican plated vehicles should be obtained a few days before you import your vehicle and convert it to Mexican title to
avoid a period of no insurance. After you obtain your plates, you can update the policy information for your insurer.
The problem will be that your vehicle will no longer be covered by your foreign vehicle policy from the moment that it is imported. Unfortunately,
there will be a few days between the time that your vehicle is processed at the border and the time that you obtain Mexican license plates and title
paperwork.
We suggest that you maintain your foreign-vehicle coverage so that it overlaps your Mexican policy by a week or so. To get a quote for Mexican
Insurance Coverage, contact TioCorp (click here).
States Not Eligible to Import
Four Mexican States do not allow vehicles to be imported... Mexico, Michoacan, Hidalgo, and Morelos.
If you live in one of those states, you may have to find another state to import to... but remember that the licensing office will ask for some proof
of address when you go to register your vehicle.
[Edited on 10-6-2013 by durrelllrobert]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Not to be an alarmist, but one of the advantages of SD registration, no smog requirements, may be tested in the not too distant future here in Mexico.
It's been mentioned before, but there are two Smog Inspection stations in Ensenada, and more on the way.
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I doubt many of us own cars that wont pass. We just want to avoid having to drive our frickin cars NOB for a smog test, every time we have to register
them.
Is vehicle smog really a problem in Ensenada? I doubt it. Probably just another money-maker from gringos for some level of govt.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Is vehicle smog really a problem in Ensenada? I doubt it. Probably just another money-maker from gringos for some level of govt.
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I do believe that vehicle smog in Ensenada is nasty. Vehicles barf camp fire amounts of smoke into the air. You don't see that in the states
anymore. The Air Districts have eliminated this. That is a good thing when 16.5 million live in a single air basin (AQMD).
I'm not advocating anything in Mexico as this is a First World privileged type of thing - cleaning the air.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Is vehicle smog really a problem in Ensenada? I doubt it. Probably just another money-maker from gringos for some level of govt.
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These inspection stations are for Mexico plated cars. Lots of chatter in the local papers about them recently. It's being included in registration
requirements for later model cars.
Gawd only knows what this will morph into. I'm just saying it could easily turn into a mordida opportunity for vehicles without Smog paperwork.
The schools here are turning out a new generation of environmentally conscious kids. They are developing a voice to be listened to.
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I don't think adult kids HAVE to be left on their parents insurance, it is not a forced thing, it is an option, it is not mandatory if they don't have
insurance of their own.
I am thankful we had that option when my son was 25 and lost insurance due to being laid off from his job where he had insurance, it sure was a good
thing we were able to get him on ours, because as murphy's law sometimes goes, he needed expensive medical care. What would have been the alternative
while he was unemployed and sick, let him suffer and get sicker...ummm or go to the ER and rack up bills and then file bankruptcy like the majority of
bankruptcy claims are for medical bills? And IMHO, what does it matter who goes on my private medical insurance, at whatever age, what should that
matter? He still had to pay what our insurance didn't cover, and we still had to pay the premiums, it's not as if it was some free ride here. Let me
ask you this...if your adult child for some reason lost their medical coverage, the reason could be many these days, eh....if they got sick or needed
major medical care, what would you do, would you not put them on YOUR insurance if you had that option? Of course you would! You would do whatever you
had to do to get your kid the medical care they needed, and I doubt seriously you would jump at paying out of pocket for medical care unless of course
you are Bill Gates! Would you just tell your kids sorry, I'm not going to put you on my policy even though I certainly could? I have a hard time
believing that ANY parent if their child was without insurance and they could be put on their parents policy for less than they could get a policy for
while they are temporarily unemployed and sick wouldn't do that. Seriously? Are you guys for real here?
I am sooo thankful we had the option to put our kid on ours. Now he is employed once again and has his own policy again, it was all a temporary thing.
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Be thankful people, that you have never had to make the tough choices for your Adult child's health and his treatment. IF you had ever had to walk in
those shoes, somehow I think you would have a different perspective.
We all love our kids, everyone loves their kids...and yes even the unemployed, the under employed, the working poor, those of us with good jobs with
good insurance, the wealthy, and even the uninsured too love their children, just as you love yours! It's hard to say what anyone would do in this
situation, so let's not pass judgment, just because an adult kid has no insurance, there are many parents out there right now with adult kids who are
sick. They love their kids too, ya know! GEEZ!
And hey....I paid for MY family, I had insurance on him and had him covered..you didn't have to pay for him...so what's your beef?
sorry Udo that this thread got high-jacked, enough said!
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BajaLuna
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to clarify....thanks that is, to the first round of ACA 2 years ago that I had him covered under, once he turned 26 he had to go off my policy!
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